Saturday, December 31, 2005
I need to set sarging goals:
I wrote my first field report on mASF the other day and the one responder suggested that I need to set goals. He said that I should try to number close in the next 50 approaches so I can learn calibration. If I try to number close before I eject, he means that I'll learn when a girl is likely to give me a number and when she isn't. This is definately the skill that I need to develop right now.
Today there isn't much to report. Seamas and I went sarging at Alumni Club in Schaumburg. It wasn't that busy for a Friday night and I'm glad as Tuesday was horrible. I was in a good mood today because I had gotten a good amount of sleep and I exercised. I wore the Hawaiian shirt and I'm convinced that helps me get in a better mood. I feel like I'm more of a party guy when I'm wearing those shirts than when I'm just wearing regular clothes.
Seated Set:
At the beginning of the night, I opened a bunch of different sets but ejected right away because I really was just warming up. The first real set was these seated set near the dance floor. One was an HB6, the other a 6.5. It was loud so I was only able to really talk to the HB6.5. The HB6 was good, though, and didn't try to cockblock. Luckily, Seamas rolled in after a few minutes and started talking to the HB6. We stayed in the set for about 5-10 minutes. (On a sidenote, time always seems to fly when I'm doing these sarges so I'm never sure of how much time actually passes.) It turns out this woman and her friend come to AC every Friday night. She has two kids, but doesn't get out much. She seems like the type who would be fascinated by the adventurous guy, i.e. me. We talked about travel a bit and I ran the "Cube" on her. Near the end, the set was starting to stall and I considered number closing, but I kind of stalled. The girl just didn't seem to be that into me. Then, Seamas said he had to go to the washroom so he left and then I just ejected. Later, I saw Seamas dancing with the girl. He pulled me to dance with them, but the HB6.5 didn't seem that interested so I just left and went to sarge some other sets. He left them later and tried to number close but they left before he could.
40 year old set:
I opened this lone wolf that turned out to be a 3 set. I was walking by and just decided to make some funny comments. The set was going pretty well for a bit as I switched off between two of the ladies. The third one then asked if I was going to talk to her as I had been ignoring her. Thionking back on the interaction, I think I started qualifying myself for some reason. It seemed like she had some game as she was married and older. She said she wanted to catch up with her friends but suggested that I should come by later. I didn't care about going back b/c these women weren't that hot and they were married. I do wonder if these suggestions that I come back later are actually legitimate. I suppose the correct answer is that it doesn't matter. If I want sets that say this, I should just come back b/c it's a freeroll. If they didn't want me to come back, they'll just get rid of me. It's better than not going back in a situation where they wanted me to return.
Overall, I think this was a good sarge. Anyone who had watched the whole interaction would have thought I had good game. I had them all laughing and they seemed to be having a good time with me.
Stripper/escort set:
I'm convinced this girl I sarged early in the night was either an escort or a stripper. She was pretty good looking. Seamas said she was an 8.7. I saw here standing alone with a coat on so I made some comment about it being too warm in here for a coat.
Girl: I just got here. I waiting for a friend of mine.
Me: What bring you out here?
Girl: I'm in town for work. Are you from around here?
Me: I'm here for the secret agent convention. I'm talking to people here trying to find the double agents who are hiding in the club.
Girl: Huh? What?
Me: Lol. I'm just messing with you.
I don't really remember much of the rest of the conversation. It turns out she was waiting for some guy friend who was in the bathroom. When he came by, I shook his hand but he seemed to be a total tool. I didn't get the sense that they were together. I suppose she could have been in town for a legitimate job, but for some reason I got the stripper vibe from here. For all I know, though, she was with some AFC guy from work.
I definately fucked up by ejecting from this set. The chick was one of the hotter chicks I've sarged and I was doing okay. She was answering my questions and I wasn't intimidated at all. She had not given me any negative signs so there was no reason to eject. I guess I left b/c she was with that guy friend but that's a stupid reason to leave. Later, I saw them sitting there and the guy seemed to just be hanging around her but they didn't seem to have any real connection. I should have went and talked to her again.
Blonde Table set:
I haven't felt the need to write detailed FR's as I used to in the past probably b/c these sarges seem to be ordinary. I believe this set happened after I bailed on Seamas on the dance floor. First, I pretended to be on the phone. I always do that in the club so I don't feel uncomfortable. Then, I actually checked my voicemail and called Sidegames. As I was talking to him, I noticed this cute 2-set two tables over. After I got off the phone, I walked by them and opened them. I ran the tent opener on the girl closest to me. The other girl was leaning in to listen. I decided to reposition myself in between them so they could both hear me.
I held this set for a good five minutes. I'm always proud of myself when I do this. Both girls had faced me the entire time and I was getting responses to my questions from both of them. I got them to tell me a story about how they were adventurous. The one girl on the right didn't seem to be as interesting nor as interested as the one on the left. Later, it stalled and I sensed that the girls were ready to eject me, so I just said it was fun talking to them and I'd come back later. I think this was actually a good move on my part. I figured I had shown that I was willing to leave before they kicked me out and I figured I could go sarge them later. What I need was Seamas to show up. He did later, but I didn't reengage the set.
Russian shot girl:
I'm friendly with this Russian shot girl. She's always working when I go to AC. For the past six weeks, she's been determined to sell me a shot, but I have refused. At the beginning, I didn't want to waste money on shots. Then, for a time, I wasn't drinking at all so I didn't want any shots. Nowadays, I have one or two beers and I cut myself off. I'd consider getting a shot, but now I kind of like the fact that she wants to sell me a shot so I want to continue playing hard to get. I did promise her that I'll buy a shot next year. I gave her the caveat that I'd do that, but she wouldn't know exactly when I'd do it.
Today, I had my first real conversation with her. I saw she was just standing around b/c she hadn't begun officially working so I went and talked to her. I BSed about how crazy Tuesday was. I figured she made a lot of money, but she said she hardly made any money. She said it was so hard to move around that it limited the amount of shots she could sell. After that, I asked her what her name is. She told me, but I'm not sure I have it right as it's a Russian name. After that, I just left. I figure I'd keep it short to show I'm not needy. I'll continue to small talk with her when I see here in the future. I figure I'll use her as social proof, plus I get social proof b/c she always sees me talking to women.
I definately think she can be social proof. I forgot to mention above that she tried to sell me up to the table two-set. Also, the HB6 & 6.5 set bought a shot from her when she approached us. Later, another set that I had just opened bought two shots from her. She was kind of a CB on that set. She didn't do it intentionally, but she ended up doing it. I had just opened the tent and before I could get any material going, she came in and sold some shots. The girls then left after she sold them the shot. I can't blame them as I had no time to DV. They could only judge me on my looks and I still have a long way to go in that department.
Lessons:
-I really am getting a lot better. When I'm in a good mood, I open pretty well. I can keep most sets going for a few minutes before they stall out. I even opened this set that Seamas thought was bitch set. I went up to them and they didn't seem like bitches at all. They were responding to my questions fine. Seamas then came in. I pulled him into the set but he gave up trying to talk to his target after only asking her one questions. It was okay, though, as they were leaving anyway. The left after we ejected so I know they were on their way out.
-I got it reinforced again that uglier girls aren't easy to sarge than prettier girls. Seamas is finally convinced of this. He said in the car that he wants me to only open sets with hot girls in the future. He feels like he doesn't have the same drive to succeed with girls that aren't as good looking, and it seems like a waste of effort to game UG's. My current modus operandi just has me opening as many sets as I can. If I see a two sets, I just go up and start talking to them even before I determine how hot they are. The exception is that I don't generally go talk to warpig only sets. There's not real point if there are other sets to talk to.
-I'm opening a lot more. I talked to at least 10 sets tonight. Some were just warmups but they still count in that I got some practice. I opened this on UG6 that was sitting by the Golden Tee machine. While I was playing, she had like reached into the space between the machine and me. She then apologized. I knew that she wasn't me to talk to her; otherwise, why would she do that? She ended up leaving to go get a drink and when I saw her come back, I just started talking to her. We talked for like 5 minutes but I knew I busted out when I told her I play cards and she said she hates gambling. She didn't leave for another 2 minutes though.
Sticking points:
-Same fucking thing. I just need to try to number close. #closing has become the equivalent of the approach anxiety I had at the start of my journey. I need to pop my cherry and just ask a girl for her number. I think that once I do that, I'll start doing it more often. I then I could have tried a #close on HB6.5 before it stalled.
-Ejecting. I ejected from that HB set that I suspected might be a stripper. It probably wasn't a big deal assuming she actually had been a stripper b/c chances are that my sarge would have failed. My excuse for ejecting there was that I didn't feel like dealing with the guy (in retrospect, I'm almost certain he was a nonfactor) and I was just warming up.
-Reengage sets. When I've ejected, I've usually said that I'll be back later. I should actually follow through.
Postscript:
It's funny that I said at the beginning that there was nothing to report. It seems that after I do a lot of sarging, I like to type so that's why I typed a ton.
My goal right now is the number close. I just need to do it and see what happens. I've read mASF enough to know that I'm going to get a ton of flakes so I might as well start getting number so I can at least get a chance to practice phone game.
I imagine within the next few weeks, I'll be number closing more often. Then, phone game will be a sticking point. After that, Day2's & 3's will be SP. I suppose LMR & ASD will be SP's too. I need to get past my current hurdle so I can reach the challenges ahead. Since my game was so weak before, I need a lot of work. Still, I think if I sarge consistenly for the next year, I'll have real game by this time next year.
I wrote my first field report on mASF the other day and the one responder suggested that I need to set goals. He said that I should try to number close in the next 50 approaches so I can learn calibration. If I try to number close before I eject, he means that I'll learn when a girl is likely to give me a number and when she isn't. This is definately the skill that I need to develop right now.
Today there isn't much to report. Seamas and I went sarging at Alumni Club in Schaumburg. It wasn't that busy for a Friday night and I'm glad as Tuesday was horrible. I was in a good mood today because I had gotten a good amount of sleep and I exercised. I wore the Hawaiian shirt and I'm convinced that helps me get in a better mood. I feel like I'm more of a party guy when I'm wearing those shirts than when I'm just wearing regular clothes.
Seated Set:
At the beginning of the night, I opened a bunch of different sets but ejected right away because I really was just warming up. The first real set was these seated set near the dance floor. One was an HB6, the other a 6.5. It was loud so I was only able to really talk to the HB6.5. The HB6 was good, though, and didn't try to cockblock. Luckily, Seamas rolled in after a few minutes and started talking to the HB6. We stayed in the set for about 5-10 minutes. (On a sidenote, time always seems to fly when I'm doing these sarges so I'm never sure of how much time actually passes.) It turns out this woman and her friend come to AC every Friday night. She has two kids, but doesn't get out much. She seems like the type who would be fascinated by the adventurous guy, i.e. me. We talked about travel a bit and I ran the "Cube" on her. Near the end, the set was starting to stall and I considered number closing, but I kind of stalled. The girl just didn't seem to be that into me. Then, Seamas said he had to go to the washroom so he left and then I just ejected. Later, I saw Seamas dancing with the girl. He pulled me to dance with them, but the HB6.5 didn't seem that interested so I just left and went to sarge some other sets. He left them later and tried to number close but they left before he could.
40 year old set:
I opened this lone wolf that turned out to be a 3 set. I was walking by and just decided to make some funny comments. The set was going pretty well for a bit as I switched off between two of the ladies. The third one then asked if I was going to talk to her as I had been ignoring her. Thionking back on the interaction, I think I started qualifying myself for some reason. It seemed like she had some game as she was married and older. She said she wanted to catch up with her friends but suggested that I should come by later. I didn't care about going back b/c these women weren't that hot and they were married. I do wonder if these suggestions that I come back later are actually legitimate. I suppose the correct answer is that it doesn't matter. If I want sets that say this, I should just come back b/c it's a freeroll. If they didn't want me to come back, they'll just get rid of me. It's better than not going back in a situation where they wanted me to return.
Overall, I think this was a good sarge. Anyone who had watched the whole interaction would have thought I had good game. I had them all laughing and they seemed to be having a good time with me.
Stripper/escort set:
I'm convinced this girl I sarged early in the night was either an escort or a stripper. She was pretty good looking. Seamas said she was an 8.7. I saw here standing alone with a coat on so I made some comment about it being too warm in here for a coat.
Girl: I just got here. I waiting for a friend of mine.
Me: What bring you out here?
Girl: I'm in town for work. Are you from around here?
Me: I'm here for the secret agent convention. I'm talking to people here trying to find the double agents who are hiding in the club.
Girl: Huh? What?
Me: Lol. I'm just messing with you.
I don't really remember much of the rest of the conversation. It turns out she was waiting for some guy friend who was in the bathroom. When he came by, I shook his hand but he seemed to be a total tool. I didn't get the sense that they were together. I suppose she could have been in town for a legitimate job, but for some reason I got the stripper vibe from here. For all I know, though, she was with some AFC guy from work.
I definately fucked up by ejecting from this set. The chick was one of the hotter chicks I've sarged and I was doing okay. She was answering my questions and I wasn't intimidated at all. She had not given me any negative signs so there was no reason to eject. I guess I left b/c she was with that guy friend but that's a stupid reason to leave. Later, I saw them sitting there and the guy seemed to just be hanging around her but they didn't seem to have any real connection. I should have went and talked to her again.
Blonde Table set:
I haven't felt the need to write detailed FR's as I used to in the past probably b/c these sarges seem to be ordinary. I believe this set happened after I bailed on Seamas on the dance floor. First, I pretended to be on the phone. I always do that in the club so I don't feel uncomfortable. Then, I actually checked my voicemail and called Sidegames. As I was talking to him, I noticed this cute 2-set two tables over. After I got off the phone, I walked by them and opened them. I ran the tent opener on the girl closest to me. The other girl was leaning in to listen. I decided to reposition myself in between them so they could both hear me.
I held this set for a good five minutes. I'm always proud of myself when I do this. Both girls had faced me the entire time and I was getting responses to my questions from both of them. I got them to tell me a story about how they were adventurous. The one girl on the right didn't seem to be as interesting nor as interested as the one on the left. Later, it stalled and I sensed that the girls were ready to eject me, so I just said it was fun talking to them and I'd come back later. I think this was actually a good move on my part. I figured I had shown that I was willing to leave before they kicked me out and I figured I could go sarge them later. What I need was Seamas to show up. He did later, but I didn't reengage the set.
Russian shot girl:
I'm friendly with this Russian shot girl. She's always working when I go to AC. For the past six weeks, she's been determined to sell me a shot, but I have refused. At the beginning, I didn't want to waste money on shots. Then, for a time, I wasn't drinking at all so I didn't want any shots. Nowadays, I have one or two beers and I cut myself off. I'd consider getting a shot, but now I kind of like the fact that she wants to sell me a shot so I want to continue playing hard to get. I did promise her that I'll buy a shot next year. I gave her the caveat that I'd do that, but she wouldn't know exactly when I'd do it.
Today, I had my first real conversation with her. I saw she was just standing around b/c she hadn't begun officially working so I went and talked to her. I BSed about how crazy Tuesday was. I figured she made a lot of money, but she said she hardly made any money. She said it was so hard to move around that it limited the amount of shots she could sell. After that, I asked her what her name is. She told me, but I'm not sure I have it right as it's a Russian name. After that, I just left. I figure I'd keep it short to show I'm not needy. I'll continue to small talk with her when I see here in the future. I figure I'll use her as social proof, plus I get social proof b/c she always sees me talking to women.
I definately think she can be social proof. I forgot to mention above that she tried to sell me up to the table two-set. Also, the HB6 & 6.5 set bought a shot from her when she approached us. Later, another set that I had just opened bought two shots from her. She was kind of a CB on that set. She didn't do it intentionally, but she ended up doing it. I had just opened the tent and before I could get any material going, she came in and sold some shots. The girls then left after she sold them the shot. I can't blame them as I had no time to DV. They could only judge me on my looks and I still have a long way to go in that department.
Lessons:
-I really am getting a lot better. When I'm in a good mood, I open pretty well. I can keep most sets going for a few minutes before they stall out. I even opened this set that Seamas thought was bitch set. I went up to them and they didn't seem like bitches at all. They were responding to my questions fine. Seamas then came in. I pulled him into the set but he gave up trying to talk to his target after only asking her one questions. It was okay, though, as they were leaving anyway. The left after we ejected so I know they were on their way out.
-I got it reinforced again that uglier girls aren't easy to sarge than prettier girls. Seamas is finally convinced of this. He said in the car that he wants me to only open sets with hot girls in the future. He feels like he doesn't have the same drive to succeed with girls that aren't as good looking, and it seems like a waste of effort to game UG's. My current modus operandi just has me opening as many sets as I can. If I see a two sets, I just go up and start talking to them even before I determine how hot they are. The exception is that I don't generally go talk to warpig only sets. There's not real point if there are other sets to talk to.
-I'm opening a lot more. I talked to at least 10 sets tonight. Some were just warmups but they still count in that I got some practice. I opened this on UG6 that was sitting by the Golden Tee machine. While I was playing, she had like reached into the space between the machine and me. She then apologized. I knew that she wasn't me to talk to her; otherwise, why would she do that? She ended up leaving to go get a drink and when I saw her come back, I just started talking to her. We talked for like 5 minutes but I knew I busted out when I told her I play cards and she said she hates gambling. She didn't leave for another 2 minutes though.
Sticking points:
-Same fucking thing. I just need to try to number close. #closing has become the equivalent of the approach anxiety I had at the start of my journey. I need to pop my cherry and just ask a girl for her number. I think that once I do that, I'll start doing it more often. I then I could have tried a #close on HB6.5 before it stalled.
-Ejecting. I ejected from that HB set that I suspected might be a stripper. It probably wasn't a big deal assuming she actually had been a stripper b/c chances are that my sarge would have failed. My excuse for ejecting there was that I didn't feel like dealing with the guy (in retrospect, I'm almost certain he was a nonfactor) and I was just warming up.
-Reengage sets. When I've ejected, I've usually said that I'll be back later. I should actually follow through.
Postscript:
It's funny that I said at the beginning that there was nothing to report. It seems that after I do a lot of sarging, I like to type so that's why I typed a ton.
My goal right now is the number close. I just need to do it and see what happens. I've read mASF enough to know that I'm going to get a ton of flakes so I might as well start getting number so I can at least get a chance to practice phone game.
I imagine within the next few weeks, I'll be number closing more often. Then, phone game will be a sticking point. After that, Day2's & 3's will be SP. I suppose LMR & ASD will be SP's too. I need to get past my current hurdle so I can reach the challenges ahead. Since my game was so weak before, I need a lot of work. Still, I think if I sarge consistenly for the next year, I'll have real game by this time next year.
