Sunday, April 02, 2006
The Good, the Bad, and The Ugly:
Okay, so this entry won't really fit the title, but I couldn't help but think of the movie. Over the past week, I've been feeling more confident again so I've been opening sets. Even if I don't run a real set, at the very least, I'll make any funny comments that come to my head. I'm going to write a brief report on this 5 set that happened later in the night, but I'm going to write about the good and the bad tonight.
The bad:
-I went to my friend's wife's birthday party. I was hoping there would be some quality girls there. She's about to graduate from med school, so all her friends are soon to be doctors also. The only problem is that they are all married/engaged except for some guys. It turns out that one of her female Indian friends is single, but I didn't find out until later in the evening. I'll admit that I was following a self-limiting belief. I didn't get the perfect opportunity to talk to her, but I could have created one. I thought we were going to the bar/club after the party, so I thought I'd get a chance there. It turns out it was the same friend that came out for a Halloween birthday party last year.
I shouldn't make excuses, but I didn't find out until later in the night that she was single and I was already out of state by that time. I was in a 3 way conversation with her and I should have made a better attempt to sarge. Again, this was really bad.
-Later, Jason and I went to the bar. Jason messed up things with this girl that opened him. She said, "I like you. I want to give you a hug." She then started dancing with him. I left him to work his game, but he says she and her friend walked away about 5 minutes after I left. I told him that he should have tried to run more game on her as she was obviously interested.
-When I left Jason with that girl, I saw a mixed 4 set. I think it was actually a three set with some wanna-be Pua talking to the girls. I saw this bored brunette, so I opened her by saying, (for some reason I keep using this opener and I'm not sure if it's shit or not) "Hey, you look like you're at the library. Try to have fun, the bar's not closing yet." As I did this, I said to the guy, "You've gotta cheer your friend up over here." As I did that, the blonde that was in front of him smiled at me and went to give me a high five. I was thinking, "Nice." I had to take a piss, so I figured I'd leave and come back. Later I reapproached. The guy was gone and the girls were still standing there. I tried to say, "Hi" but the same blonde gave me this disgusted look. I guess I should have stayed while that set was hot. I had AI. I should have blown out the trying AFC. Instead, I let her fall out of state. It was bad to reapproach later.
The Good:
-I'm feeling less fear that I used to. As we walk to the Divsion Street bars, I said random stuff to girls that we walked by. I got no response from most of them but I enjoy doing it anyway. Sometimes, I get a response, and it feels so much better to say stuff than to keep quiet. In the past, I would come up with amusing stuff to say but never say it.
-I opened a five set at the first bar we walked into. We were walking along Division Street, trying to find a bar to enter. I saw a four set in the window and said we should go open it. We walked in, and they were the only worthwhile set in the establishment. I felt approach anxiety for a bit, but I didn't want to let myself down . I also didn't want to look stupid for making Jason come into the bar and then not opening. I went up and started talking.
-I swear that I heard a girl comment that I was cute. Part of me still doesn't want to believe it as I have low self esteem, especially when it comes to looks. I've been working out a ton. My muscles have gotten bigger, but I still have a ton of fat that I need to eliminate. At the Lodge, there was this Asian girl and this white girl. As they were walking past me, I believe I heard the Asian one say that she saw a cute Asian guy. I was the only Asian guy in the vicinity, so the odds are good that she had been refering to me. This was good, but then the white girl responded, "Where, I don't see anyone." So, I wasn't cute enough in her eyes. I'm still wondering if I imagined all this.
Michigan set:
Part of me wants to post this to get opinions on what happened. I walked into this bar and opened a this seated 4 set. The bouncer had said it was almost last call when we walked in. I couldn't think of anyting to say, so I think I said, "Hey, what bars do you recommend around here?" The girls responded that they weren't from around here. Immediately, I knew this was good so I stayed. I stalled and I remember making a comment about this big, pink, rectagular purse. I believe this is when my wing came in as he had a running joke with a girl in the set that there was fold up machete in there. Just after this, this cute blonde came back from the washroom . It turns out it was her purse. I remember one of the girls said, "Here she is."
At this point, I think I became a bad wing. Well, part of it is due to inexperience. A good PUA would have run the set so all the girls would like him. Most of my experience is with 2-sets, lone wolves, or the ocassional three sets. I've only opened one five set before. Jason, is naturally an outgoing guy and he's always livening up things. He was cracking jokes at the party earlier, and he even makes people laugh when we play board games. I figured he'd be good at running the four set, so I left him to work them, and I started talking to this blonde.
I remember asking her where's she from, but before she could give an answer, I asked if she was from California. She said, "No" and then I realized she had a southern accent.
Me: You're from the South? Alabama? Mississippi?
Girl: Keep guessing.
Me: Georgia?
Girl: Think of the state that's farthest south.
Me: That's Florida, but you're not from there. Texas?
Girl: Yeah.
She then told me she was living in Detroit now. All the girls new each other from college. One was in town for work, so the other three drove in from Michigan to see her. I ran the tent opener on her. She asked where I was from. I told her that I was from the suburbs. She asked which one. I told her she probably hadn't heard of it, but I said it was near O'hare. She replied, "Can you give us a ride to the blue ride later?" Me, "Maybe if we get along."
Not long into the set, the bar called last call. The girls obviously wanted to keep drinking, so Jason and I through out some suggestions. The girl I was talking to seemed keen on venue changing with us. I figured we'd get the other girls to go too, but then something weird happened. Jason ended up losing state b/c of this and I still don't know how to interpret it.
The girl who was in town for work went outside and started talking to three guys who were older than all of us. Her friends were cracking jokes that one of the guys had his arm around her and was trying to bust moves. As we're leaving, I saw the AFC hand her his business card.
We're in the process of walking out when this girl comes back in and says she needs to get her coat. I hear her say to her friends that this was a client and that the "client" was going to the Lodge down the street. Jason and I had said we wanted to bounce to Mother's. As the girls are coming out, the worker girl was standing. I said, "I see one of the guys tried to give you his business card, LOL." She told me too that it was a client, and as I think back on it, I believe it might have been as she gave this disgusted look when it was clear that I was suggesting the interest.
Jason starts walking with the blonde I was talking to and is walking her towards Mother's which is on the same side of the street that we're on. Suddenly, the worker girl starts leading the girls to the Lodge. I was just standing there. Thinking back, I should have taken a more active lead here. The girls then tell the blonde, who's with Jason, that they're going to the Lodge. She walks towards them. Jason comes to me and says, "Let's get out of here."
I reply, "What the problem? That girl was talking to a client that's at the Lodge. Let's just go over there." I figure that I can AMOG these guys. Obviously, they are AFC's if they are not clients b/c the lame-o is trying to give his business card after talking to the girl for <3 minutes. We walk in about 30 seconds after the girls. Jason says he need to go to the restroom. The setup ends up being horrible at this place. It's too small and crowded. The blonde ends up standing next to one of the AFC's and I'm stuck in the aisle next to girls from the set that I hadn't really talked to (big mistake of course). I'm trying to chat with these girls but the traffic is making it difficult. Jason comes back and says that we should go.
Me: Why? This is a good setup. Forget about those dudes. They are clients.
Jason: Yeah right. (He implies that the girls aren't into us and were using the guys to get rid of us.
Me: So what if they aren't. Let's stay.
Jason: They don't want us, let's go.
Jason's comments put me out of state, plus I hadn't really talked to the girls that were near me so I agreed to leave. I figured there were more sets to open. I still think it was a messup. I'm sure I had better game than the AFC's. They might have gotten the girls to come to The Lodge, but the guy has no game if he's trying to give a business card that early in the sarge. Plus, the girl did have a disgusted look on her face when she thought of the guy as being a potential love/sex interest. I told Jason that the set was good since they were out of town.
Okay, so this entry won't really fit the title, but I couldn't help but think of the movie. Over the past week, I've been feeling more confident again so I've been opening sets. Even if I don't run a real set, at the very least, I'll make any funny comments that come to my head. I'm going to write a brief report on this 5 set that happened later in the night, but I'm going to write about the good and the bad tonight.
The bad:
-I went to my friend's wife's birthday party. I was hoping there would be some quality girls there. She's about to graduate from med school, so all her friends are soon to be doctors also. The only problem is that they are all married/engaged except for some guys. It turns out that one of her female Indian friends is single, but I didn't find out until later in the evening. I'll admit that I was following a self-limiting belief. I didn't get the perfect opportunity to talk to her, but I could have created one. I thought we were going to the bar/club after the party, so I thought I'd get a chance there. It turns out it was the same friend that came out for a Halloween birthday party last year.
I shouldn't make excuses, but I didn't find out until later in the night that she was single and I was already out of state by that time. I was in a 3 way conversation with her and I should have made a better attempt to sarge. Again, this was really bad.
-Later, Jason and I went to the bar. Jason messed up things with this girl that opened him. She said, "I like you. I want to give you a hug." She then started dancing with him. I left him to work his game, but he says she and her friend walked away about 5 minutes after I left. I told him that he should have tried to run more game on her as she was obviously interested.
-When I left Jason with that girl, I saw a mixed 4 set. I think it was actually a three set with some wanna-be Pua talking to the girls. I saw this bored brunette, so I opened her by saying, (for some reason I keep using this opener and I'm not sure if it's shit or not) "Hey, you look like you're at the library. Try to have fun, the bar's not closing yet." As I did this, I said to the guy, "You've gotta cheer your friend up over here." As I did that, the blonde that was in front of him smiled at me and went to give me a high five. I was thinking, "Nice." I had to take a piss, so I figured I'd leave and come back. Later I reapproached. The guy was gone and the girls were still standing there. I tried to say, "Hi" but the same blonde gave me this disgusted look. I guess I should have stayed while that set was hot. I had AI. I should have blown out the trying AFC. Instead, I let her fall out of state. It was bad to reapproach later.
The Good:
-I'm feeling less fear that I used to. As we walk to the Divsion Street bars, I said random stuff to girls that we walked by. I got no response from most of them but I enjoy doing it anyway. Sometimes, I get a response, and it feels so much better to say stuff than to keep quiet. In the past, I would come up with amusing stuff to say but never say it.
-I opened a five set at the first bar we walked into. We were walking along Division Street, trying to find a bar to enter. I saw a four set in the window and said we should go open it. We walked in, and they were the only worthwhile set in the establishment. I felt approach anxiety for a bit, but I didn't want to let myself down . I also didn't want to look stupid for making Jason come into the bar and then not opening. I went up and started talking.
-I swear that I heard a girl comment that I was cute. Part of me still doesn't want to believe it as I have low self esteem, especially when it comes to looks. I've been working out a ton. My muscles have gotten bigger, but I still have a ton of fat that I need to eliminate. At the Lodge, there was this Asian girl and this white girl. As they were walking past me, I believe I heard the Asian one say that she saw a cute Asian guy. I was the only Asian guy in the vicinity, so the odds are good that she had been refering to me. This was good, but then the white girl responded, "Where, I don't see anyone." So, I wasn't cute enough in her eyes. I'm still wondering if I imagined all this.
Michigan set:
Part of me wants to post this to get opinions on what happened. I walked into this bar and opened a this seated 4 set. The bouncer had said it was almost last call when we walked in. I couldn't think of anyting to say, so I think I said, "Hey, what bars do you recommend around here?" The girls responded that they weren't from around here. Immediately, I knew this was good so I stayed. I stalled and I remember making a comment about this big, pink, rectagular purse. I believe this is when my wing came in as he had a running joke with a girl in the set that there was fold up machete in there. Just after this, this cute blonde came back from the washroom . It turns out it was her purse. I remember one of the girls said, "Here she is."
At this point, I think I became a bad wing. Well, part of it is due to inexperience. A good PUA would have run the set so all the girls would like him. Most of my experience is with 2-sets, lone wolves, or the ocassional three sets. I've only opened one five set before. Jason, is naturally an outgoing guy and he's always livening up things. He was cracking jokes at the party earlier, and he even makes people laugh when we play board games. I figured he'd be good at running the four set, so I left him to work them, and I started talking to this blonde.
I remember asking her where's she from, but before she could give an answer, I asked if she was from California. She said, "No" and then I realized she had a southern accent.
Me: You're from the South? Alabama? Mississippi?
Girl: Keep guessing.
Me: Georgia?
Girl: Think of the state that's farthest south.
Me: That's Florida, but you're not from there. Texas?
Girl: Yeah.
She then told me she was living in Detroit now. All the girls new each other from college. One was in town for work, so the other three drove in from Michigan to see her. I ran the tent opener on her. She asked where I was from. I told her that I was from the suburbs. She asked which one. I told her she probably hadn't heard of it, but I said it was near O'hare. She replied, "Can you give us a ride to the blue ride later?" Me, "Maybe if we get along."
Not long into the set, the bar called last call. The girls obviously wanted to keep drinking, so Jason and I through out some suggestions. The girl I was talking to seemed keen on venue changing with us. I figured we'd get the other girls to go too, but then something weird happened. Jason ended up losing state b/c of this and I still don't know how to interpret it.
The girl who was in town for work went outside and started talking to three guys who were older than all of us. Her friends were cracking jokes that one of the guys had his arm around her and was trying to bust moves. As we're leaving, I saw the AFC hand her his business card.
We're in the process of walking out when this girl comes back in and says she needs to get her coat. I hear her say to her friends that this was a client and that the "client" was going to the Lodge down the street. Jason and I had said we wanted to bounce to Mother's. As the girls are coming out, the worker girl was standing. I said, "I see one of the guys tried to give you his business card, LOL." She told me too that it was a client, and as I think back on it, I believe it might have been as she gave this disgusted look when it was clear that I was suggesting the interest.
Jason starts walking with the blonde I was talking to and is walking her towards Mother's which is on the same side of the street that we're on. Suddenly, the worker girl starts leading the girls to the Lodge. I was just standing there. Thinking back, I should have taken a more active lead here. The girls then tell the blonde, who's with Jason, that they're going to the Lodge. She walks towards them. Jason comes to me and says, "Let's get out of here."
I reply, "What the problem? That girl was talking to a client that's at the Lodge. Let's just go over there." I figure that I can AMOG these guys. Obviously, they are AFC's if they are not clients b/c the lame-o is trying to give his business card after talking to the girl for <3 minutes. We walk in about 30 seconds after the girls. Jason says he need to go to the restroom. The setup ends up being horrible at this place. It's too small and crowded. The blonde ends up standing next to one of the AFC's and I'm stuck in the aisle next to girls from the set that I hadn't really talked to (big mistake of course). I'm trying to chat with these girls but the traffic is making it difficult. Jason comes back and says that we should go.
Me: Why? This is a good setup. Forget about those dudes. They are clients.
Jason: Yeah right. (He implies that the girls aren't into us and were using the guys to get rid of us.
Me: So what if they aren't. Let's stay.
Jason: They don't want us, let's go.
Jason's comments put me out of state, plus I hadn't really talked to the girls that were near me so I agreed to leave. I figured there were more sets to open. I still think it was a messup. I'm sure I had better game than the AFC's. They might have gotten the girls to come to The Lodge, but the guy has no game if he's trying to give a business card that early in the sarge. Plus, the girl did have a disgusted look on her face when she thought of the guy as being a potential love/sex interest. I told Jason that the set was good since they were out of town.
